ECUs not recognised

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ECUs not recognised

Ulæst indlæg af tkathulevej » tirs 20. aug 2024 20:27

Hej alle,

Jeg er interesseret i evt. reprogrammere ETG6 gearkassen i min 2013 DS5 Hybrid 4.

Jeg har anvendt Diagbox (V7.62) et par gange på bilen, fundet og slettet nogle fejlkoder osv. Hver gang jeg starter Diagbox bemærker jeg dog, at flere ECU'er listes ed information om 'ECU not recognised'

Har læst, at det kan være ens hardware som ikke er 'full chip', men ved ikke, om man på nogen måde kan afgøre, om dette er problemet.

Nogle som har ved mere end mig ;) ?
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Citroën DS5 Hybrid4, årg. 2013 ...~ 185kkm
Citroën tidligere: C4 Grand Picasso 2014, XM 2.0 Turbo 1993
Andet før og nu: Alfasud 1.5ti 1978, Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1978, Lotus Esprit S2 1978, VW Transporter 1980, Renault 25 2.2 1985, Renault 25 V6 Baccara 1989, Renault Espace III 2.0 16V 2000, Renault Espace V 1.6 dCi 160 2015, Renault Zoe 22 kwh 2016, Tesla M3 2020, Porsche 928S 1980, Lotus Elan M100 Turbo 1991

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Re: ECUs not recognised

Ulæst indlæg af cit-rotti » ons 21. aug 2024 12:27

There is no doubt that this is not a software problem, but that the VCI is unsuitable.
According to the picture, it is an ‘ancient’ China clone, which only works up to firmware 4.2.2 or 4.2.4 = Diagbox V05.29. Your box would not even be included there.

DB7.62 is perfectly fine for your vehicle - the firmware is 4.3.3.
Either buy a proper VCI or reflash the existing one - usually works.

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Re: ECUs not recognised

Ulæst indlæg af tkathulevej » lør 31. aug 2024 08:07

Hi cit-rotti

Okay thank you vary much for this information. - So as I understand you my first attempt would be to reflash my existing VCI (is that straight forward, or?)

BTW: Here is what Interface Checker says:

InterfaceChecker.jpg

Br /tka
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Citroën DS5 Hybrid4, årg. 2013 ...~ 185kkm
Citroën tidligere: C4 Grand Picasso 2014, XM 2.0 Turbo 1993
Andet før og nu: Alfasud 1.5ti 1978, Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1978, Lotus Esprit S2 1978, VW Transporter 1980, Renault 25 2.2 1985, Renault 25 V6 Baccara 1989, Renault Espace III 2.0 16V 2000, Renault Espace V 1.6 dCi 160 2015, Renault Zoe 22 kwh 2016, Tesla M3 2020, Porsche 928S 1980, Lotus Elan M100 Turbo 1991

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Re: ECUs not recognised

Ulæst indlæg af cit-rotti » lør 31. aug 2024 21:02

f you believe the interface checker, then your VCI is already flashed to ‘C’ and also displays the correct firmware.
Then this VCI - which happens frequently - is not suitable for diagnosing your DS 5 due to a lack of technology or poor component quality.
I doubt whether a new flash process will help. I can't comment on the flashing itself because I only use original VCI and have never had to do this.
However, there is a specialist on the Danish forum - perhaps he is reading and will get in touch.
It probably won't work without buying a suitable VCI - the Danes buy their Chinese VCIs from a Danish company that has often been recommended in the forum.
Greetings Wolfgang

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Re: ECUs not recognised

Ulæst indlæg af tkathulevej » tirs 10. sep 2024 16:58

Hi Wolfgang,

Thanks. Bought decent VCI fra recommended Danish company. Actually Diagbox still states 'not recognised' for the ECU's in question. However now it's possible to communicate and see data etc. for those. - So at least something changed to the better :)

But still a bit strange of course. I don't know if upgrading Diagbox will do any difference. My DS is year 2013 and to all my knowledge Ver. 7.62 should be suitable....

Br /tka

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Citroën DS5 Hybrid4, årg. 2013 ...~ 185kkm
Citroën tidligere: C4 Grand Picasso 2014, XM 2.0 Turbo 1993
Andet før og nu: Alfasud 1.5ti 1978, Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1978, Lotus Esprit S2 1978, VW Transporter 1980, Renault 25 2.2 1985, Renault 25 V6 Baccara 1989, Renault Espace III 2.0 16V 2000, Renault Espace V 1.6 dCi 160 2015, Renault Zoe 22 kwh 2016, Tesla M3 2020, Porsche 928S 1980, Lotus Elan M100 Turbo 1991

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Re: ECUs not recognised

Ulæst indlæg af cit-rotti » tirs 10. sep 2024 21:04

A distinction must be made between the following.
If the Diagbox indicates in red that there is no communication, then this control unit cannot be accessed. In addition to an unsuitable VCI, there are also other reasons for this, e.g. faulty diagnostic connection (very rare).

If only the message ‘Control unit not recognised’ appears, this usually means that the control unit designation cannot be read. However, all functions are accessible and can be carried out. Such anomalies also occur with an original VCI. Very rarely there is no access due to a bad VCI.
7.62 is fine - further updates in the V07/V08 range rarely make sense.
V09xxx, which is currently 9.195, could be used - but sometimes more is less.
Greetings Wolfgang

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Re: ECUs not recognised

Ulæst indlæg af tkathulevej » tors 12. sep 2024 17:48

Thx, Wolfgang, for the great and valuable information :)

...Now onto looking at gearbox reprogramming. - If I dare ;)

/tka
Citroën DS5 Hybrid4, årg. 2013 ...~ 185kkm
Citroën tidligere: C4 Grand Picasso 2014, XM 2.0 Turbo 1993
Andet før og nu: Alfasud 1.5ti 1978, Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1978, Lotus Esprit S2 1978, VW Transporter 1980, Renault 25 2.2 1985, Renault 25 V6 Baccara 1989, Renault Espace III 2.0 16V 2000, Renault Espace V 1.6 dCi 160 2015, Renault Zoe 22 kwh 2016, Tesla M3 2020, Porsche 928S 1980, Lotus Elan M100 Turbo 1991

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